That's it! That's how they've done it, they've took the seats out.

I test drove both cars, I bought the Evora, spending that sort of money (and they are both very similar priced) I wanted a car which made me grin like a loony when I drove it, only the Evora did that, just drives like its on rails, believe me it's better than the Cayman, took delivery a month ago and still can't wipe the grin off my face especially when I see a Cayman, I know for me I made the right decision.
But there's no right or wrong decision, it's just personal preferance and what you can afford.

Well I can only speak for myself but after sitting in a Boxster the other day the Evora build quality is way better and less plastic,

I loved my Elise, but wouldn't trust any Lotus to cover the 30k+ miles that I cover each year in my various Porsches.

Also, the Evora is fking ugly.

"They do have ESP though its one of those sports options "


nope all the car has is traction control

NO ESP, that is due on the next one.

Try the wet handling track at silverstone in a Evora :-)

They show you just how good PSM is when you play in the Porsches.

Yes your quite right..... I fell asleep in the Boxster... zzzz...zzzz

Who said I thought my Lotus or any Lotus was st? I merely stated that I doubt I could cover 90K in three years, like I do in my Porsches. I haven't looked at the Lotus service intervals, but are they 20K?

As for me saying the Evora is ugly - well, you can't get upset about that, surely? Rather harsh calling me a loser for simply having a different opinion to yours, don't you think?

Maybe a tad harsh but your comments led me to believe that you thought the Lotus was unreliable..our 987 porsche had complete engine failure at around 30k miles having owned it from new so forgive me for not thinking that Porsches are all that reliable.

ESP is due next yr on Evora. Not that the car needs it... utterly communicative... wet handling track in an Evora would be a joy.

The traction control is extremely clever in fact with the ability to detect and neutralise understeer.... it also has a electronic differential lock providing for fanastic traction.


Have driven Cayman gen2 at silverstone, today I drove Evora on road and track... there is no question that Lotus has hit the bullseye... sorry Cayman owners... even modded Cayman owners (sorry Shan !) do not possess a car that drives as well.

My thoughts are that;
i) it steers better (beautiful weighting, great information of whats underfoot, immediate response) than any porsche Ive driven (incl 7GT3, 993c4s, 6tt, 7tt, cayman 1&2, 986/987 etc etc).. in fact only car I've driven with a more direct feel to what the front wheels are doing is the lotus one-eleven, and that doesnt really count as a road car imo,
ii) amazing compliance yet at the same time the car feels 100% track fit... amazing compromise that Lotus has found that is simply beyond the Cayman ime,
iii) actually a very well designed and easy to use interior with supportive and comfortable seats.
iv) This car can soak up track punishment - you won't find the limits of its brakes, and it feels almost as fit for track as the elise, which is quite an achievement considering its on-road ability.

Negatives include:
i) uninspiring engine... should it be punchier, yes, however, fact is that on road, if you utilise 100% of its acceleration across a challenging b road - such is the car's chassis competence, i don't believe you'll be overtaken by anything this side of a turbo. On track theres no doubt more power could be easily accomodated by the chassis and this can lead you to wanting more.
ii) gearshift is long of throw and less precise than it could be.
iii) As already mentioned the gear ratio's are quite long... rectified by choosing the shorter ratio box.
iv) It doesnt feel quite as solid as a Porsche... can't fault the materials per say or even interior finish (no squeeks / rattles) but maybe its just the way the door shuts, or the general feel.. its intangible, can't put my finger on it... maybe its just perception ?
v) brakes grabby at top of travel - porsche progression is better.
vi) terrible rear view, albeit reversing camera available and wing mirrors are big.

Would I buy one ? Well not as a replacement for the turbo, but potentially when/if they release a higher performance engine.... and once I've seen how the residuals perform.

Indeed my comparative experience relates mainly to more modern stuff - but for sure, Lotus has the whole "steering thing" locked down !